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peter.palagyi
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:16 am  Reply with quote

Hello,

As Abaqus is the main solver here, our Ansys providers showed us the WB interface to Abaqus for us. Originating from requests from some large customer in France it seems.

Is there anyone out there with some experience from this module/add-on? Especially when it comes to parameter studies and coupling with other disciplines like CFD but also when it comes to creating input decks for Abaqus.

Best regards/Med vänlig hälsning
Peter Hagstedt Palágyi
RTT DG/4:134
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:48 am  Reply with quote

The FE Modeler template file which maps ANSYS technology to ABAQUS technology is quite a bit underdeveloped. When I compared it to other templates I got the notion to try a few additions, and some of them worked: Here's an old thread on this:

It turns out the "Interface Regions" portion of the translation isn't useful, at least for our present model, and this stage of development (R13 tested). Your mileage may vary.

-----Original Message-----
From: xansys-bounces@xansys.org [mailto:xansys-bounces@xansys.org] On Behalf Of Weisman, Bram
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 10:29 AM
To: ANSYS User Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Xansys] [FE Modeler] now "Improved FE Modeler Template for Abaqus"

It gets better. There is functionality for Components, Coordinate Systems, and Contact Pairs.

<WBTEMPLATE TARGET=ABAQUS>
*HEADING
**
** File created at @TimeStamp@
**
** This template extracts the FEModeler mesh in a format
** compatible with ABAQUS input.
**
** MESH NODES
**
@MeshNodes@
**
** MESH ELEMENTS
**
@MeshElements@
**
** MATERIAL PROPERTIES
**
@MaterialProperties@
**
** PHYSICAL PROPERTIES (not in default template, appears to work in R13)
**
@PhysicalProperties@
**
** Interface Regions (not in default template, appears to work in R13)
**
@InterfaceRegions@
**
** Components (not in default template, appears to work in R13)
**
@Components@
**
** Coordinate Systems (not in default template, appears to work in R13)
**
@CoordinateSystems@
**
*STEP
**
** SolverSettings (not in default template, does not appear to work in R13)
**
** @SolverSettings@
**
** Loads and Boundary Conditions would go here
**
** Boundary Conditions (not in default template, does not appear to work in R13)
**
** @BoundaryConditions@
**
** Loads would go here (not in default template, does not appear to work in R13)
**
** @Loads@
**
**
*ENDSTEP


Best regards,

Bram Weisman, P.E.
Technology Advisor - Tech Champions and Tech Advisors
Proposals and Technology Development

Meshin' around with ANSYS since 1998.

SBM Offshore USA, Inc.
Website: www.sbmoffshore.com


This message is not supplied on behalf of SBM Offshore USA, Inc or any of it's affiliates.


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From: Xansys [mailto:xansys-bounces@xansys.org] On Behalf Of Hagstedt Palagyi, Peter (PG DG CE CORE TUB MGT 2)
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:17 AM
To: ANSYS User Discussion List
Subject: [Xansys] [WB] Anyone uses the Abaqus interface in WB?

Hello,

As Abaqus is the main solver here, our Ansys providers showed us the WB interface to Abaqus for us. Originating from requests from some large customer in France it seems.

Is there anyone out there with some experience from this module/add-on? Especially when it comes to parameter studies and coupling with other disciplines like CFD but also when it comes to creating input decks for Abaqus.

Best regards/Med vänlig hälsning
Peter Hagstedt Palágyi
RTT DG/4:134
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Siemens Industrial Turbomachinery AB Tel: +46 (0) 122 811 07
SE-61283 Finspong Mobile: +46 (0) 707 688 651
Sweden Fax: +46 (0) 122 813 49
Email: peter.hagstedt-palagyi@siemens.com<mailto:peter.hagstedt-palagyi@siemens.com>



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Meshin' around with ANSYS since 1998.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:54 am  Reply with quote

This is not it. The add-on module we was shown is more of a normal WB-Ansys analysis with some limitation (no APDL in command snippets for instance, sigh.........) and the possibility to send the model to abaqus for solving, and then retrieve it for post-processing. If no solver is installed locally one could create an input file in abaqus-lingo and send for solving on cluster or wherever the solver is.

Best regards/Med vänlig hälsning
Peter Hagstedt Palágyi
RTT DG/4:134
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Siemens Industrial Turbomachinery AB    Tel: +46 (0) 122 811 07
SE-61283 Finspong                                  Mobile: +46 (0) 707 688 651
Sweden                                                     Fax: +46 (0) 122 813 49
                                                                  Email: peter.hagstedt-palagyi@siemens.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Xansys [mailto:xansys-bounces@xansys.org] On Behalf Of Weisman, Bram
Sent: den 10 juni 2015 16:48
To: ANSYS User Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Xansys] [WB] Anyone uses the Abaqus interface in WB?

The FE Modeler template file which maps ANSYS technology to ABAQUS technology is quite a bit underdeveloped. When I compared it to other templates I got the notion to try a few additions, and some of them worked: Here's an old thread on this:

It turns out the "Interface Regions" portion of the translation isn't useful, at least for our present model, and this stage of development (R13 tested). Your mileage may vary.

-----Original Message-----
From: xansys-bounces@xansys.org [mailto:xansys-bounces@xansys.org] On Behalf Of Weisman, Bram
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 10:29 AM
To: ANSYS User Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Xansys] [FE Modeler] now "Improved FE Modeler Template for Abaqus"

It gets better. There is functionality for Components, Coordinate Systems, and Contact Pairs.

<WBTEMPLATE TARGET=ABAQUS>
*HEADING
**
** File created at @TimeStamp@
**
** This template extracts the FEModeler mesh in a format
** compatible with ABAQUS input.
**
** MESH NODES
**
@MeshNodes@
**
** MESH ELEMENTS
**
@MeshElements@
**
** MATERIAL PROPERTIES
**
@MaterialProperties@
**
** PHYSICAL PROPERTIES (not in default template, appears to work in R13)
**
@PhysicalProperties@
**
** Interface Regions (not in default template, appears to work in R13)
**
@InterfaceRegions@
**
** Components (not in default template, appears to work in R13)
**
@Components@
**
** Coordinate Systems (not in default template, appears to work in R13)
**
@CoordinateSystems@
**
*STEP
**
** SolverSettings (not in default template, does not appear to work in R13)
**
** @SolverSettings@
**
** Loads and Boundary Conditions would go here
**
** Boundary Conditions (not in default template, does not appear to work in R13)
**
** @BoundaryConditions@
**
** Loads would go here (not in default template, does not appear to work in R13)
**
** @Loads@
**
**
*ENDSTEP


Best regards,

Bram Weisman, P.E.
Technology Advisor - Tech Champions and Tech Advisors Proposals and Technology Development

Meshin' around with ANSYS since 1998.

SBM Offshore USA, Inc.
Website: www.sbmoffshore.com


This message is not supplied on behalf of SBM Offshore USA, Inc or any of it's affiliates.


-----Original Message-----
From: Xansys [mailto:xansys-bounces@xansys.org] On Behalf Of Hagstedt Palagyi, Peter (PG DG CE CORE TUB MGT 2)
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:17 AM
To: ANSYS User Discussion List
Subject: [Xansys] [WB] Anyone uses the Abaqus interface in WB?

Hello,

As Abaqus is the main solver here, our Ansys providers showed us the WB interface to Abaqus for us. Originating from requests from some large customer in France it seems.

Is there anyone out there with some experience from this module/add-on? Especially when it comes to parameter studies and coupling with other disciplines like CFD but also when it comes to creating input decks for Abaqus.

Best regards/Med vänlig hälsning
Peter Hagstedt Palágyi
RTT DG/4:134
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Siemens Industrial Turbomachinery AB Tel: +46 (0) 122 811 07
SE-61283 Finspong Mobile: +46 (0) 707 688 651
Sweden Fax: +46 (0) 122 813 49
Email: peter.hagstedt-palagyi@siemens.com<mailto:peter.hagstedt-palagyi@siemens.com>



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:18 am  Reply with quote

Hey Peter,

We have some major customers using this in production. I am not sure how
much I am allowed to say about what others are doing, but perhaps one of
them will want to comment.

As you said, this is not just FE Modeler output to Abaqus. Instead, it is
just like ANSYS Mechanical, with Workbench Meshing, and Mechanical post,
but the solver is Abaqus instead of ANSYS. In other words, the Workbench
process, but with Abaqus under the hood. Parametric studies should work
the same, but I am less confident about multiphysics coupling and I have
never tried creating output files for Abaqus.

But since it looks like you are going to try it out anyway, I hope you can
come back and let us know how it went.

Best regards,



Simon Pereira
Product Manager
Platform Development Business Unit; ANSYS Inc.
Tel: 1.734.213.1217
www.ansys.com

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Hagstedt Palagyi, Peter (PG DG CE CORE
TUB MGT 2) <peter.hagstedt-palagyi@siemens.com> wrote:

Quote:
This is not it. The add-on module we was shown is more of a normal
WB-Ansys analysis with some limitation (no APDL in command snippets for
instance, sigh.........) and the possibility to send the model to abaqus
for solving, and then retrieve it for post-processing. If no solver is
installed locally one could create an input file in abaqus-lingo and send
for solving on cluster or wherever the solver is.

Best regards/Med vänlig hälsning
Peter Hagstedt Palágyi
RTT DG/4:134

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Siemens Industrial Turbomachinery AB Tel: +46 (0) 122 811 07
SE-61283 Finspong Mobile: +46 (0) 707
688 651
Sweden Fax: +46 (0)
122 813 49
Email:
peter.hagstedt-palagyi@siemens.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Xansys [mailto:xansys-bounces@xansys.org] On Behalf Of Weisman, Bram
Sent: den 10 juni 2015 16:48
To: ANSYS User Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Xansys] [WB] Anyone uses the Abaqus interface in WB?

The FE Modeler template file which maps ANSYS technology to ABAQUS
technology is quite a bit underdeveloped. When I compared it to other
templates I got the notion to try a few additions, and some of them
worked: Here's an old thread on this:

It turns out the "Interface Regions" portion of the translation isn't
useful, at least for our present model, and this stage of development (R13
tested). Your mileage may vary.

-----Original Message-----
From: xansys-bounces@xansys.org [mailto:xansys-bounces@xansys.org] On
Behalf Of Weisman, Bram
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 10:29 AM
To: ANSYS User Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Xansys] [FE Modeler] now "Improved FE Modeler Template for
Abaqus"

It gets better. There is functionality for Components, Coordinate
Systems, and Contact Pairs.

<WBTEMPLATE TARGET=ABAQUS>
*HEADING
**
** File created at @TimeStamp@
**
** This template extracts the FEModeler mesh in a format
** compatible with ABAQUS input.
**
** MESH NODES
**
@MeshNodes@
**
** MESH ELEMENTS
**
@MeshElements@
**
** MATERIAL PROPERTIES
**
@MaterialProperties@
**
** PHYSICAL PROPERTIES (not in default template, appears to work in R13)
**
@PhysicalProperties@
**
** Interface Regions (not in default template, appears to work in R13)
**
@InterfaceRegions@
**
** Components (not in default template, appears to work in R13)
**
@Components@
**
** Coordinate Systems (not in default template, appears to work in R13)
**
@CoordinateSystems@
**
*STEP
**
** SolverSettings (not in default template, does not appear to work in R13)
**
** @SolverSettings@
**
** Loads and Boundary Conditions would go here
**
** Boundary Conditions (not in default template, does not appear to work
in R13)
**
** @BoundaryConditions@
**
** Loads would go here (not in default template, does not appear to work
in R13)
**
** @Loads@
**
**
*ENDSTEP


Best regards,

Bram Weisman, P.E.
Technology Advisor - Tech Champions and Tech Advisors Proposals and
Technology Development

Meshin' around with ANSYS since 1998.

SBM Offshore USA, Inc.
Website: www.sbmoffshore.com


This message is not supplied on behalf of SBM Offshore USA, Inc or any of
it's affiliates.


-----Original Message-----
From: Xansys [mailto:xansys-bounces@xansys.org] On Behalf Of Hagstedt
Palagyi, Peter (PG DG CE CORE TUB MGT 2)
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:17 AM
To: ANSYS User Discussion List
Subject: [Xansys] [WB] Anyone uses the Abaqus interface in WB?

Hello,

As Abaqus is the main solver here, our Ansys providers showed us the WB
interface to Abaqus for us. Originating from requests from some large
customer in France it seems.

Is there anyone out there with some experience from this module/add-on?
Especially when it comes to parameter studies and coupling with other
disciplines like CFD but also when it comes to creating input decks for
Abaqus.

Best regards/Med vänlig hälsning
Peter Hagstedt Palágyi
RTT DG/4:134

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Siemens Industrial Turbomachinery AB Tel: +46 (0) 122 811 07
SE-61283 Finspong Mobile: +46 (0) 707
688 651
Sweden Fax: +46 (0)
122 813 49
Email:
peter.hagstedt-palagyi@siemens.com<mailto:
peter.hagstedt-palagyi@siemens.com>



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